yeah - what BP said. Man if my wife was not a JW and in your shoes (I assume DFd) and I (if I was still a JW) told her she shouldn't come to a family memorial dinner - she'd tell me to go f@#$ myself.
unbelievable. Would the deceased approve?
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I'm upset
by littlebird inmy father in law passed away today.
he was not a witness, but as he got to be more and more house bound, he would attend sunday meetings with my husband or my brother in law.
tomorrow, a "brother" is buying the family dinner, im not welcome.
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How many registered sex offenders in territory
by just n from bethel ini just had a thought.
is there any provision for service overseers/territory servants to keep the territories updated with registered sex offenders?
i'm not talking about jws that are registered and attending - i'm referring to all the sex offenders registered in the congregation territory.
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I just had a thought. Is there any provision for service overseers/territory servants to keep the territories updated with registered sex offenders? I'm not talking about JWs that are registered and attending - I'm referring to all the sex offenders registered in the congregation territory. Do publishers know which houses these registered offenders live at. While it is public information, wouldn't it be prudent for the SO/TS to keep the territories updated with this information? How often are two sisters by themselves going door-to-door not really knowing who will be answering? I also know when I was a kid I used to work with my siblings in service or other kids my age. Even alone sometimes when in my mid teens. I had no idea that I might be knocking on the door of a pedophile. Neither did my parents. Anyway, back when I was an elder and ms this was never even brought up. All our territories had listed were houses where they asked to be taken off the list. The pederasses were part of the territory like any other home.
I think there are over 20 registered offenders in my old territory. Maybe the angels are just steering the publishers away from those doors?
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Children of adult ex-jw's
by man in black inmy wife and i were both jw's for the past 28 years.
we left two years ago, we wrote our da letters and split.. my wife felt very contained, there was no room to grow.
i started to fade slowly, but when my mom died, i saw the complete lack of love from the brothers and that sealed the deal for me.. we have two sons, 22 and 26, who we raised as witnesses, not the die hard type, just try and do your best.
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Thank you so much for your valuable insight tellthetruth. It's great to have someone new pop in and start diagnosing the real reasons for our family members health problems. Since you're all about telling the truth - why don't you lead by example? Start with your congregation. Then tell us your name. Also can you answer why it is that all that the JWs provide you via association, congregation meetings, literature, conventions, their very own web sites, etc. - is not enough for you? What is it that is missing from your life that makes you want to come to a JW forbidden site like this and engage in apologetic tantrums? Are you just not satisfied with all the spiritual provisions from the WT org? Come on now, tell the truth.
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Update:Elders still using passive/agressive & Confrontation with JW mom
by Coffee House Girl inwell, i am glad my brother called and forwarned me this was comming...i got to come on here and get so much good advise from you people.
it actually started friday nite....my door bell was buzzing at 7pm, this time they parked their car so that they thought i couldn't see it but i climbed up my kitchen counter and could see the rear end of the car by peeking out that window.
it was the same elder as before.. an hour after that: must be mom couldn't stand it anymore & she called me crying.
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Hey tellthetruth - not to interject on behalf of CHG, but it's not her who is not getting on with her life. It's the religion she left quite a while ago. They are stalking her. She owes them no answers. What makes you think anybody is obligated to answer some creepy men that hide out spying on you at your home. They're lucky she hasn't called the cops on them.
Anyway - you're new and it sounds like you're defending the elders, so maybe you're still active. If so, do you do the right thing? Will you be telling the elders that you're on this site and associating with disfellowshipped people?
If I misread your first post, my bad. And either way - welcome.
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JW's Came to the Door
by pr0ner inboy she didn't know what she was walking into.
it was a wealthy (she drove a lexus and was very well dressed) middle aged woman with a younger girl.
she used the typical line this time of year asking if i knew where the origins of christmas came from.
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Great - another apologetic JW comes on here and judges everyone around him with a false air of authority. Chi you have 4 posts under your belt. You label someone swine. Yet apparently, the association and literature and meetings of the Watchtower is not enough for you. You still feel the need to be on this site, associating and discussing your religion with ones you deem "swine". That's nice. Someone remind why I am not a JW again?
For a reference - the context of this part of the sermon on the mount: Matt 7:1-5 - Chi - you just reminded me of this counsel:
1 “Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. 2 For you will be treated as you treat others. a The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged. b
3 “And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye c when you have a log in your own? 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, d ‘Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye.
Way to take a scripture out of context. But it's how you were taught so you win a prize.
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1914? Pyramid? No Way. then I die. Will i still have the hope of Resurection?
by Smoky induring russell's time, when preaching door to door, if a person learn the truth, had a bible study, then learned and did not agree with the pyramid relationship to 1914, and did not become a jw subsuquently.
when the person dies.
does he have a hope for resurection, after rejecting the current truth at the time?.
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What about all the ones that left the org when 1925 came and past, proving Rutherford a fraud? I believe Dwight Eisenhower's father left due to this. It's interesting in the latest video, they speak so patronizingly of the many that left in 1914 when their rapture falied to occur as Russell claimed God and the bible promised. All these people that observed many doctrines fail and change, are spoken of as disloyal and impatient. But yet, interestingly enough they are probably seen as worthy of the resurrection by JW standards.
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These are good people
by Retrovirus inin my introductory post i told about the jws that have been visiting me at my sil's request.
at first i spoke with them for her sake, then found i liked them anyway.
what i didn't like was the literature, especially the stuff trying to disprove evolution.
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Hey SBC - what's up bro? You can't really blame JWs for trying to play with others that are just way out of their league.
First, they are told that the Awake and Insight books exceed the education of a 4 year university degree. (Although, funny story, one time in college I was trying to use Awake as a reference for something I was researching. The professor totally schooled me, and told me not to ever use religous pamplets as a credible reference. She said I could rewrite the report to be re-graded using peer-reviewed scholarly references or take a D- as a grade. I ditched the CD rom and decided to use real research from there on out. But, I caught one or two fellow students not only using the WT publications for their papers - but plagerizing them word for word - without citing any references. I called a few out on this too, told them that cheating by plagerizing from WT pubs is an interesting way to give a Witness.)
Second - you have these committees like HLC that go to a seminar where an anesthesiolgist gives a 20 min. presentation. So all the sudden that makes these guys experts. They have no medical training whatsoever, but because they go to a seminar here and there, they think they're equipped to handle discussions on a professional level. Of course, most of these guys don't even know CPR - and they're supposed to give us the final guidance in medical life threatening emergencies?? So yeah - debator/reniaa is a good representation of the arrogance that the religion teaches it's adherents.
She, like most JWs, (she's more "brazen" though in that she doesn't believe rules about association/debating with apostates apply to her) has no idea what she is talking about. She's never had any education in anything she discusses, yet thanks to her religion, thinks she has all the answers. Yep who needs college - when you got Awake?
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Creationist Theme Park: "Ark Encounter"
by leavingwt insay hello to ark encounter.. .
kentucky governor unveils plans for creationist theme park complete with full-sized ark.
.. a joint project between beshear and answers in genesis -- a christian organization that also built a similar attraction, the creation museum -- the park will reportedly cost at least $150 million and create 900 jobs, according to the news release.. beshear's spokesperson kerri richardson declined to comment beyond what was in her office's news release on the project.. the amusement park, named ark encounter, will include all the modern recreation amenities, including: a full-sized wooden ark, a "walled city much like was found in ancient times, a replica of the tower of babel with exhibits, a first-century middle eastern village" and even outdoor parking.
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Another thing that bothered me - how amazing was it that Noah could start out and end up in the same region (middle east) when all was said and done? Floating on an ocean-covered earth for many months... what are the odds that you'd end up in the same region you started out at? As I've always said, the math just doesn't add up when it comes to the noah/flood story.
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JW's Came to the Door
by pr0ner inboy she didn't know what she was walking into.
it was a wealthy (she drove a lexus and was very well dressed) middle aged woman with a younger girl.
she used the typical line this time of year asking if i knew where the origins of christmas came from.
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Things Reniaa has just admitted that it's ok for her to do, even though it's against the "FDS" instructions:
1) celebrate jewish holidays
2) associate and debate with disfellowshipped apostates
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JW's Came to the Door
by pr0ner inboy she didn't know what she was walking into.
it was a wealthy (she drove a lexus and was very well dressed) middle aged woman with a younger girl.
she used the typical line this time of year asking if i knew where the origins of christmas came from.
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Hey Isaac, please keep her talking. Doubting lurkers are leaving the org right now thanks to her posts.